Last week Newsweek published an interview (full text here) with BGEN Thomas Hartmann, the controversial legal advisor to the Military Commission Convening Authority who has already been disqualified from further participation in the Hamdan case because of his improper efforts to influence the prosecution. It appears that Hartmann has also appointed himself to fill the shoes of Col. Mo Davis, the former chief prosecutor he helped drive to resign, as the government's leading cheerleader for the commission process. Such a role was logically inappropriate for a prosecutor, but seems equally, if not even more, improper for an individual charged with offering objective legal advice to the head military commission decision maker. Worse to my thinking than the mere fact he is defending the commission process is that he is doing so with incomplete, incorrect, or potentially even deliberately misleading information.
Here are some significant excerpts from the interview conducted by Dan Ephron with my assessment of his comments inserted where appropriate.
NEWSWEEK: Let me start by asking you about the perception problem
that the military commissions have. It's not just the ACLU that believes
they're unfair; it's a good number of our allies around the world, some former
prosecutors in the military commissions office, and some key politicians here
in Washington. Even if the commissions are fair, as you've said again and
again, how do you address the problem of perception?
Gen. Thomas Hartmann: You start with the core. You start
with what you've got in the statute and the manual for military commissions and
the regulation. When you start with those things, you will see that at the
core, before you start making generalizations, the protections provided to
these people, to these accused, are very, very similar to the protections that
would be provided to me in connection with a military court-martial. That's a
fundamentally important thing, to say that you're giving essentially the same
kinds of protections to people accused in these cases to the kinds of people
that we are. We wear these uniforms; we take oaths. And that's an important
thing. Secondly, step outside the military arena to the Article 3 [federal]
courts. The same kinds of protections are here. These cases, there's an
automatic appeal for any finding of guilt. Then go to Nuremberg. Everybody thinks Nuremberg is the gold standard, right?
No. Nuremberg was a vital precedent for establishing individual criminal liability for launching a war of aggression, committing war crimes, and engaging in crimes against humanity even against a nation's own citizens. But no serious legal scholar that I'm aware of would argue that the criminal procedure followed in that case sets a standard that remains sufficient today. And at the time the Chief Justice of the United States privately called Nuremberg a "high grade lynching party."
The most casual student of criminal procedure understands that there has been a substantial evolution of due process standards since the 1940s, and both civilian and military justice have seen major improvements in the intervening six decades. So even if Nuremberg's standard of justice was sufficient in the 1940s, that provides no legitimate basis for comparison today.
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was no beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard at Nuremberg. There were no appellate rights at Nuremberg. There were no rules of evidence at Nuremberg. The people at Nuremberg who were found guilty and were sentenced to death are dead. How long did it take them to be dead? Less than a week, because there were no appellate rights.
Given that the government has apparently chosen to use Nuremberg as the model they are trying to emulate, you'd think they would at least make the effort to have their facts right. The Nuremberg judgments were handed down on October 1, 1946 and the convicted defendants were executed on October 16. More important than this minor factual distortion, however, is the fact that every post-WWII era war crimes trial, as well as modern U.S. military justice, provided a formal appellate system so any due process comparisons beween what is acceptable in 2008 and what might have been done in 1946 are logically irrelevant. It's like saying lethal injection can't be an issue now because we used to burn people at the stake.
The rules of evidence also merit consideration. The International Military Tribunal was a civil justice style panel consisting of experienced legal personnel so it was entirely logical that the Nuremberg rules would give the judges the wide latitude to determine the weight to give evidence themselves as is customary in civil justice systems. The military commission trial panels, by comparison, are much more akin to Anglo-American juries, and the U.S. court-martial practice on which they are based has always long applied rules of evidence based on those used in U.S. federal courts. This practice was adopted early in the 19th century by military officers themselves rather than required by any higher authority. This same practice was also followed rigorously by U.S. military commissions at least until the time of WWII even though not statutorily mandated.
But there were also acquittals at Nuremberg
We haven't even had a trial yet. So there may be acquittals in these cases,
too. Nobody's saying there won't be acquittals. Nobody's saying anything about
the outcome. The outcome does not determine the fairness. The fairness is in
the process of making sure that the evidence is heard, that the accused has the
right to counsel, that the accused has the right to remain silent, the accused
has privileges, the accused can cross examine, confront, challenge, call his
own witnesses, file motions, argue to the jury.
But a key question that will dog perceptions of fairness at Guantanamo is what happens after the trial. At Nuremberg those acquitted were promptly released from U.S. government custody, while the condemned were executed and those sentenced to terms of imprisonment were moved to a long-term prison. There is every chance that at Guantanmo both the convicted (in non-capital cases) and anyone acquitted alike will simply be returned to the same supermax-style cells they've been sitting in for extended periods already: the convicted to serve their sentences and the acquitted to continue in detention as "enemy combatants" too dangerous to be released. As Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson cautioned well before Nuremberg got underway, however, "You must put no man on trial before anything that is called a court . . . if you are not willing to see him freed if not proven guilty."
Defense lawyers for the five high-value detainees [accused of
masterminding the attacks of 9/11] asked to postpone the arraignment but were
turned down. What's the rush?
The judge made that determination. As a general matter, there is no rush on
anything. [But] it's 2008. So there is no rush, but there is a sense of the
importance of these cases in general, not just the 9/11 cases. They've been
analyzed, reviewed, coordinated with the intelligence and law enforcement
communities, the legal communities, and now various prosecutors are ready to
swear charges, and once you swear charges you get into the process.
But as far as I understand, only one of the five detainees who is
going to be arraigned Thursday has had a chance to see his attorney.
Dan, that will always be the case, won't it? It will always be the case.
Because the prosecutor in every trial, the trial down the street, the trial in
the military, the trial in this process—the prosecutor is the guy who's been
studying the evidence, organizing it, collating it, gathering it, putting trial
briefs together, putting charges together, swearing charges. There is no
defense counsel. The accused doesn't even know he's got a case. And when that's
done, the accused is charged, just like in our case. And when the charges are
sworn, the accused gets a counsel. So the defense is always going to come later
to the game than the prosecution does.
There's a difference between coming later to the game and having fair opportunity to meet with a client and provide meaningful legal advice to allow the client to decide how to plead. The issue is not that the defense hasn't had the same amount of time as the prosecution to prepare; it's that they're being rushed to proceed much faster than can be done with any modicum of justice, given the unique issues they confront and the many impediments the government has either erected in their path, or at least refuses to do all it can to remove them.
One of the issues that's come up is security clearances for the
civilian attorneys, even for the military defense attorneys. When will that be
resolved?
Glad to answer. They have 18 defense counsel on the 9/11 cases. Write these
numbers down, because this is important. Ten military and eight civilian. Of
the 10 military, eight have the appropriate level of security clearance. Of the
civilians, of those eight, five have or will have by [May 30] the appropriate
level of security clearance. Three are in the process of getting their security
clearance. If you try to get the level of security they need in these cases, it
usually takes a year to 18 months. Now, that wouldn't work, would it? So what
we've done is we've streamlined that process to make sure the defense counsel
and others in the process move very rapidly in getting their security
clearance. So absent some unusual thing, that security clearance that began
between the 12th and the 21st of May should be done by the end of June.
A more fundamental question is why do they all need security clearances at all? What really distinguished Nuremberg, and gave it what legitimacy it does enjoy, is that the prosecution assembled a massive public case, developed in large part from the Nazi German government's own documents proving beyond any reasonable doubt both the nature of the aggressive wars Germany launched against both eastern and western neighbors as well as the horrors of the Holocaust, forced labor, etc. A trial based on secret evidence, by comparison, will never enjoy any sense of legitimacy, particularly given real reason for belief that what is "classified" is the coercive means by which statements were extracted from the defendants.
At Guantanamo classification seems to serve two nefarious purposes. First, to allow the government to make it difficulty, if not impossible, for the defense to meaningful challenge the coercive means by which self-incriminatory evidence was obtained from the defendants, and second, to provide a justification for excluding foreign nationals from participating as counsel. No trial can legitimately be perceived as fair if the defendants don't trust their lawyers, and the majority of these defendants will not trust American lawyers after all they've been through.
At Nuremberg the defendants were able to pick their own attorneys and were represented by fellow nationals paid for by the Allies, not forced to rely on "enemy" military officers.
But from the perspective of the attorney, he's saying, "Even if
I get the clearance before the arraignment, the first time I can see my client
is a day or two days before. We have to talk about the plea he's going to
enter; we have to talk about some defense strategy." And some of these
attorneys won't get it until after the arraignment.
Well, the judge looked at all that. Tom Hartmann is not the judge. The judge
is the judge. Judge [William] Kohlmann looked at all that. All those arguments
were made in the motion, in the filing. The judge dealt with the very issues
that you're bringing up, Dan, and he concluded that it was appropriate to
proceed with the arraignment.
But this is disingenous give that Tom Hartmann has declared that he has the legal authority to direct the prosecution, the prosecution is obligated to do justice, and the prosecution has great latitude to control the timing of these events.
There's speculation that part of the strategy is to get the
arraignment done before the Supreme Court issues its decision [on the
legitimacy of the military commissions]. What do you say to that?
I know nothing about that.
Given the evidence already in the public record about the politically motivated timing of virtually every thing that has happened at Guantanamo over the past few years this denial rings a bit hollow.
Capt. Prescott Prince, the military attorney representing Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed, one of the things he has been complaining about is that all
his requests for discovery material have been denied. Why is that?
I don't know. I don't know anything about his requests for discovery
material. But the prosecution has an obligation to produce certain things to him
on their own, exculpatory information for example, and various kinds of
information by the accused, material that is necessary for the defense. Those
matters will either be produced—or the alternative, Dan, is to go to the judge
and the judge will require production of the evidence. If the defense thinks
it's not getting discovery, the place to go is not the media, the place to go
is to the judge.
But the Military Commissions Act only requires the production of material in the hands of the prosecution, not the "government." So it does nothing to ensure justice given that there is already evidence suggesting that in the CSRT processes exculpatory evidence was kept from those tribunals by the simple expedient of other government agencies not turning it over to those administering the process.
Exculpatory evidence, discovery. [Prince] talks about being in an
interview with his client and not being able to walk out with written notes.
That's not correct. Of course he can take notes. He can take them out with
him.
How would Hartmann know? Prince's account is entirely consistent both with other published accounts and with stories I've been told by those defense counsel I've met. The reality is that the detention facility at Guantanamo is outside the control of the Office of Military Commissions leaving the staff free to interfere with defense attorneys, whether to deliberately make their job harder or just via well intentioned zealous enforcement of rules designed without consideration of the defense mission.
Attorney Prince has complained that he can't take his notes with
him.
Well, he can. I'm telling you: number one, he can take notes; number two, he
can take those notes out with him; and number three, if those notes are
classified, he can take those notes to classified storage locations on Guantánamo. He has a defense special
compartmentalized information facility, a SCIF, completely dedicated to the
defense. A big building about half the size of all the floor space we've got
has been available to them. It's been available to them for about three weeks
now. They have one in the United States, and when it wasn't available to them
down there, they had other SCIF storage space down there.
Having visited Guantanamo several times during my previous Navy career, I know from personal experience just how remote it is and how difficult it can be to do many things we take for granted stateside. Realistically the defense needs to do much of its work off the island, and so even if Hartmann is correct that the defense can now remove their notes from the detention facility itself, giving the defense the ability to keep notes at Guantanamo does little to facilitate their ability to prepare for trial if they can't freely transfer items back and forth between the mainland and the island. Realistically the defense simply cannot do its job as long as things like simple notes of attorney-client meetings are treated as classified information.
I want to ask you about waterboarding, which most security officials
now agree is torture, including CIA [Director Michael] Hayden. What's your
opinion on that?
I don't give an opinion on that. I allow the courts to decide whether it
falls in a particular category. Torture is illegal. The president of the United States
has said we do not torture. Statements derived from torture are inadmissible in
these proceedings. Beyond that, we allow the courts to evaluate the evidence.
Ninety-five to 99 percent of what goes on in the trial is fact, and you
evaluate the facts against the law.
Hartmann wears the uniform of a United States military judge advocate. If one of our service personnel was being detained by a foreign power and was subjected to waterboarding would there be any equivocation or would we denounce it as torture and both demand it stop and that the perpetrators be prosecuted by any nation that could get their hands on them? We all the know the right answer is the latter. No one should be allowed to wear a U.S. uniform who doesn't understand this. The President may be the commander-in-chief, but military personnel are not legally obligated to obey his orders per se, only his lawful orders. This caveat has been part of U.S. military law since 1775. It is thus incumbent on judge advocates to independently assess the legality of orders from higher authority, not to simply rely onthe superior's logic as Hartmann does here.